Snuggled among Crystal Palace's gorgeous shops you'll find our biggest cafe, offering the usual array of delicious homemade butties, cakes and salads, as well as vegan, gluten and dairy-free goodness. Sylvan Hill, Fox Hill and Stambourne Way will be temporarily closed off with the use of planters with the aims of making walking and cycling easier while cutting pollution. We specialise in underground dance music holding a stock of 30,000 records as well as stocking latest releases. Crystal Palace is worth a trip, despite sitting eight miles south from Charing Cross, down a lonely twig of the troublesome East London — “Ginger” — Overground line.The place is a community and, around its village-like triangle, between the busy young parents' pubs and antiques shops, you’ll find fine neighbourhood restaurants. The exhibition took place from 1 May to 15 October 1851, and more than 14,000 exhibitors from around the world gathered in its 990,000 square feet (92,000 m 2) exhibition space to display examples of technology developed in the Industrial Revolution. I am all in favour of walking to my local shops to do minor shopping, but I am retired, and have lots of time. I assume that the traffic engineers looked at all the options, and modelled their ramificatiions, before installing the one way system on the Triangle. Concerns have been expressed that the popular Crystal Palace Triangle will be “decimated” by increased traffic. The Crystal Palace was a cast iron and plate glass structure, originally built in Hyde Park, London, to house the Great Exhibition of 1851. He said: “I originally got concerned because Croydon Council was supposed to have sent a letter to all the people affected but I did not get one. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Also, the wider pollution of generating electricity from fossil fuels will reduce or even disappear as a result of solar and wind power. While trying to solve one problem they fear it will gridlock the Crystal Palace Triangle. This can leave some in the area feeling neglected. COOL STUDIO IN THE FAMOUS CRYSTAL PALACE TRIANGLE is located in the Norwood district of London, a 13-minute walk from Crystal Palace Park, 5 miles from Brixton Academy and 8 miles from Greenwich Park. It contains a number of real treasures. The maisonette is quietly set away on a no-through path, within walking distance of the shops and bars on the Crystal Palace Triangle. I would urge all to write to Shapps instructing him to withdraw powers and further instructing Croydon Council to open roads pending a full and public consultation on the matter. It may just be that less-than-adequate planning and modelling of traffic flows have actually been undertaken before plonking the planters at the end of some streets. Crystal Palace Vintage. Crystal Palace Triangle, London, United Kingdom. 2010 to 2020: Inside Croydon has been delivering local community service and local community news for 10 years. Guide price £625,000 to £650,000. But some in the area are concerned that the closures will simply push traffic to other roads making it more congested elsewhere, including through the already busy Crystal Palace Triangle. Clearly Croydon Council cannot be trusted with the “emergency powers” that Grant Shapps has bestowed since they have been abused to further an agenda clearly already in the making and a gift in that sense. He added: “Blocking Fox Hill will stop some things but it will increase traffic in the Triangle.”. Rather than driving down Fox Hill and turning right onto Aukland Road Mr Goddard will have to drive a loop through the Triangle and down Anerley Hill. People are the lifeblood of any town so it’s time to encourage rather than put an obstacle course in their way. Crystal Palace is unique in that it falls within five boroughs and the triangle itself straddles three, Croydon, Bromley and Lambeth. The Crystal Palace Market is an innovative culinary concept that genuinely believes in healthy, fresh and flavoursome food. But Cllr Ryan thinks that even though the measures are temporary, there should have been a full consultation. The next six to eight weeks may demonstrate if pro-car Ryan is right. Cycling is fine if the day is not too hot, not too cold, not too wet, and not too windy. That’s why we give food the respect it deserves by simply grill-searing our fish, meat and chicken to lock in the natural flavours that come from sourcing the best local ingredients. The Upper Norwood Library Hub is a multi-purpose community and performance arts space with a professional library service delivered by Lambeth Council, co-funded by Croydon Council. All roads meet at the top of the (Anerley) Hill, Apart from rat-run-like cuts, the main alternative to the South is South Norwood and its even more congested High Street which has tiny pavements on both sides. That, and electric vehicles, would reduce the pollution and the congestion, and make the streets more pleasant. The new schemes introduced today under the Streetspace scheme bring the borough’s total so far to 16. I haven’t been up the Hill to visit the Triangle for a year or so, but I look forward to a train trip there to enjoy Autumn in the “Montparnasse of South London” to see for myself if the recent measures like the planters have any clear plusses or minusses. “I support the objectives behind this, but can’t see how this won’t badly affect some Bromley residents, drivers or not!” was the comment tweeted by Angela Wilkins, the leader of the opposition Labour group on Bromley Council, in reaction to Croydon’s proposals. A bus gate at the junction of Auckland Road and Cypress Road allows the number 410 and cyclists continued access while barring cars. However, road congestion, caused by people driving through the pinch point of the Triangle, will remain as there are no adeqaute alternative North-South and East-West Routes. I am a Photographer specialising in Interiors and Architecture, & I moved to Upper Norwood/Crystal Palace/Gipsy Hill/SE19 (you choose) back in 2006, and saw immediately what a strong community exists here. The property sits on a nice plot, with a well maintained garden to the front and back. They do not listen to the concerns of others, sadly.”. We have declared a climate emergency – Pat voted for it a year ago. THERE'S NO TIME (by The Planters) I’ve… But it is important that we actually do something about it, and reducing car usage is an important step in that direction.”. “Further, it is considered that the direct investment that will arise from M&S Foodhall’s presence in the Crystal Palace triangle should be wholly supported – especially as the current high-street retail industry is typically facing uncertainty. I am not advocating driving everywhere, but just accepting that driving can make sense in the daily transport choices we make, taking into consideration all the above issues. Local access will maintained via the Church Road end of Fox Hill. Crystal Palace Vintage. He said: “I am concerned about all the residents and I am terribly concerned about the Triangle. Some drivers have deliberately damaged and moved road closure planters in South Norwood, Even members of local cycling groups, describing the measures as “a massive step forward”, have also described the way they have been designed and implemented as “a blunt instrument” and suggested that, “Any permanent version may need a little more nuance.”. Blocked-off roads: Crystal Palace Bermuda Triangle (and a few other song titles you may not have heard of….) The council was still making amendments to its road closure plans as late as July 30, when a letter was rushed out to residents advising of adjustments to where and how some of the roads affected would be blocked off. Anyone working, does not. It’s a great barn of a pub shielded by a thick hedge, hiding a kind of ramshackle Tudor drinking hall. That’s why we give food the respect it deserves by simply grill-searing our fish, meat and chicken to lock in the natural flavours that come from sourcing the best local ingredients. To support independent local journalism in Croydon, please sign up today as a supporter. Sylvan Hill: closure around halfway along Sylvan Hill. Local access will be maintained via the Church Road end of Stambourne Way, Fox Hill: closure at the junction between Fox Hill and Braybrooke Gardens. It contains a number of real treasures. Local access will be maintained via the Church Road end of Stambourne Way. those stuck in the slowed traffic on the main roads, as they have taken on the vehicles which would usually use rat runs, have been less complimentary. At the front of the property is a well-maintained and manageable garden. 87 likes. “We have come up with these temporary measures because they make more of our roads attractive spaces for people to walk and cycle in, give everyone a safer and healthier local environment and they continue to allow traffic to get from A to B.”, King promises a sort of retrospective consultation. Pingback: Transforming Society ~ The pandemic and positive lifestyle changes. He also has something of a track record for defending the rights of car drivers to pollute the atmosphere and clog the roads with their vehicles: when a Quietway, a reduced traffic route intended to eliminate rat-running, was trialled on Norbury Avenue five years ago, it was Ryan who stepped in and got the experiment pulled long before it had run its course. Some road closures were introduced on side streets around South Norwood – on Lancaster Road, Warminster Road and Woodvale Avenue – at the beginning of the lockdown. This must include the negative effects including increased congestion, new “rat runs”, massively increased pollution, the choking of access to Crystal Palace and the not unreasonable expectation to be able to use the roads for which we pay heavily. “I think the area will be decimated, Crystal Palace will lose its identity and character.”. Based in Croydon and edited by Steven Downes. A relatively new arrival on the Triangle, Crystal Palace Vintage does what it says on the tin sign. It’s just a case of more people = more cars. Most are ill-conceived and burden others roads unreasonably. Seeing as Streatham and West Norwood have a dearth of half decent pubs / bars, Crystal Palace has proved relatively welcoming with a good choice of restaurants and a few pubs worth going to. Others are embracing the change as a chance to get out on their bikes more and are pleased with the reduction in traffic. Our. ‘We’re” doing no such thing, of course. Alma Yard is a collection of six two-bedroom duplex apartments in the heart of Crystal Palace triangle. Sometimes they’ll include recommendations for other related newsletters or services we offer. One road’s new found peace is to another’s extreme detriment. The popular Crystal Palace Food Market is open every Saturday from 10am to 3pm in Haynes Lane, again off the Triangle. News, views and analysis about the people of Croydon, their lives and political times in the diverse and most-populated borough in London. Houses of Parliament is 8 miles from the apartment, while The All England Lawn Tennis Club Centre Court is 8 miles away. Road closures without due consultation is fundamentally wrong. Oh–and a little commodity called “Time”. This must have resulted in lower pollution in those 2 roads, but meant more for those living in Church Road (North). Fly tipping is clearly less of a concern. A road closure trial in Upper Norwood has caused bitter divisions among residents, and within the Labour-controlled council. Again, this is not a pro-car rant, but a plea for common sense and reality. The current Triangle one-way system has the effect of taking drivers coming from the South West (Croydon and South Norwood and beyond) , down the wide, Southern section of Church Road, past the Queens Hotel, and, after a left turn, rather slowly around the 2 sides of the triangle that are lined with shops and restaurants–Westow Street and Westow Hill . The council failed to consult their colleagues at Bromley Council – which is responsible for traffic management on its borough’s roads nearby. The three roads – Fox Hill, Stambourne Way and Sylvan Hill – were used as a cut through between Church Road and Auckland Road, but drivers will now need to go through the Crystal Palace triangle or find another route. In her letter, Cllr Wilkins tells Ms Alexander there has been “large increases in congestion around the Crystal Palace triangle and feeder roads” since the August 3 implementation of the closures. Crystal Palace Park regeneration: What has been done so far in the £2.4million improvements? The public announcement about the closures was only made late on Thursday, barely 72 hours before the No Entry signs went up. Local & Travel Website This really is a masterclass in both arrogance and stupidity (buy one get one free?). Wands have made the cycle lane on London Road a much safer proposition. In the meantime we will avoid Crystal Palace as will many. On Auckland Road a “bus gate” has, effectively, divided the road in two giving through access only to busses despite government advice being to avoid buses and use other means, such as cars. Others are embracing the change as a chance to get out on their bikes more and are pleased with the reduction in traffic. There are indeed some people who never walk, and never use public transport, but could do so without endangering themselves. Crystal Palace is unique in that it falls within five boroughs and the triangle itself straddles three, Croydon, Bromley and Lambeth. Bromley Council leader Colin Smith confirmed on Thursday he had written to the transport secretary in a bid to resolve the situation at the Crystal Palace triangle. BERMUDA TRIANGLE Getting really really bored of the constant gridlock in Crystal Palace, compliments of Croydon council now known as the Crystal Palace Bermuda Triangle, as its been reported that people who once left for a 20 minute round trip, now disappear for hours and hours on end????? And if they want to use them to drive a 20 minute walk or cycle – then get use to being in traffic. Cllr King added: “We have come up with these temporary measures because they make more of our roads attractive spaces for people to walk and cycle in, give everyone a safer and healthier local environment and they continue to allow traffic to get from A to B. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Crystal Palace is an area in south London, England, named after the Crystal Palace Exhibition building which stood in the area from 1854 until it was destroyed by fire in 1936. At lunchtime, it’s quiet and musty with music played sporadically and at different volumes, as if the few punters in there are being subjected to CIA interrogation techniqu… He said: “As a councillor I have to listen to people, the last two or three weeks I have had so many calls and emails about this. The new Crystal Palace Town Team has launched an interactive map of the Crystal Palace Triangle and surrounding areas, allowing the community to find which businesses have marked themselves as “open” during the pandemic lockdown. The popular Crystal Palace Food Market is open every Saturday from 10am to 3pm in Haynes Lane, again off the Triangle. The CP Town Team is made up of local businesses, community organisations, councillors from three boroughs and residents, and was… For more news and features from across London directly to your inbox sign up to our newsletter here . A remarkable six-bedroom detached home, located on a prime road just off the popular Crystal Palace triangle. To contact us, please email inside.croydon@btinternet.com. Ryan is a Labour councillor for Crystal Palace and Upper Norwood ward and the longest-serving councillor at the Town Hall. The latest chasm between the party line and what people really think was exposed last week by councillor Pat Ryan, who broke the usual omerta required of the Labour group on all matters of public policy when he criticised the road closures saying that the area will be “decimated” (yes, he misused that word), and claiming, “Crystal Palace will lose its identity and character.”. At a Croydon Council meeting on Monday (October 11) Councillor Stephen Mann raised the plight of some Crystal Palace businesses. The footways of the Triangle are, generally, much wider. On the positive side, Croydon Council can cull thousands of pounds in fines for those who, like me, hadn’t actually realised that this stupidity had been implemented with the “enforcement” cameras. Learn how to create your own. Concerns have been expressed that the popular Crystal Palace Triangle will be “decimated” by increased traffic. The veteran councillor is concerned that the changes will have a negative impact on some of his constituents like 85-year-old Philip Goddard. It has nothing to do with being pro car just the practical reality that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. “I regret if there is a difference of opinion between myself and the leadership but it is what my residents think and they find it very hard to understand that they are not being listened to. A relatively new arrival on the Triangle, Crystal Palace Vintage does what it says on the tin sign. Liliane Pillay, who lives in Braybrooke Gardens off Fox Hill, thinks that something needs to be done about the traffic on the road and generally walks everywhere herself. View of Crystal Palace, London SE19. Stambourne Way: closure at the junction of Stambourne Way and Auckland Road. The extent of the road closure stupidity has increased with the closure off all access to Auckland Road from the A212. Councillor Pat Ryan has been a Crystal Palace Labour councillor for 28 years and lives in Beulah Hill. In a bid to reduce traffic in the area, Croydon Council has announced that three hills in a row will be closed to through traffic from Monday, August 3. We also host the Crystal Palace Library of Things and a live-streaming service hosting performances, activities and lunch time shows from our community. The road closures introduced today all affect side roads that link the major roads at Church Road and Auckland Road: According to the council’s official press release: “The measures will involve temporarily turning the streets into cul-de-sacs for through vehicles with signs on alternative routes available.”. In a bid to reduce traffic in the area, Croydon Council has announced that three hills in a row will be closed to through traffic from Monday, August 3. The three roads – Fox Hill, Stambourne Way and Sylvan Hill – were used as a cut through between Church Road and Auckland Road, but drivers will now need to go through the Crystal Palace triangle or find another route. A problem pushed elsewhere is still a problem. According to Councillor Ryan, “It is fighting for survival because of covid-19. It will be the second store to serve alcohol with a limited seating area on the Triangle… Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. This can leave some in the area feeling neglected. It is not an argument that Ryan and the car drivers of Upper Norwood are too impressed with, even if, after many years of neglect and delay, Croydon is using some funding from the Mayor of London to play catch-up in the provision of safer cycling and walking infrastructure. Positioned moments from the vibrant Crystal Palace Triangle, excellent transport links and outstanding schools is this charming three bedroom Victorian maisonette. Funny that they can install cameras for a temporary restriction such as this yet for a permanent menace such as the continued fly tipping (and drug dealing) on Ross Road adjacent to Grangewood Park there are just signs threatening “we’re watching”. Millions of Londoners have been plunged into Tier 4, but what does this mean for shops across the capital? Local access will be maintained via both Church Road and Auckland Road ends of Sylvan Hill. Ryan’s greatest claim to fame recently came when he got caught during a full meeting of the council in the Town Hall chamber while watching a Palace football match on an iPad. In a few years time the roads will be completely gridlocked regardless of these new changes. No doubt, there were plusses and minusses, depending on whether the plussed or minussed were a car or van driver, a resident, a shopper or diner, or the owner of one of the businesses. A petition has already raised 300 signatures in opposition to those closures, while some motorists have taken more direct action, actively removing the planters that are supposed to block access to Albert Road. It will stop people coming to the Palace to do their shopping, to socialise.”. Respect the measures put in place to keep staff, customers and our community safe. Learn how to create your own. “We’ve been up and down to the doctors because my wife damaged her leg.”. A few other similar schemes have already been put in place by the council including closures on Lancaster Road, Warminster Road and Woodvale Avenue. The Labour group at the Town Hall, already riven with fault lines on a number of contentious issues, is facing another split, this time over road closures in Upper Norwood that have been introduced today under coronavirus emergency powers. Stuart King, Croydon’s cabinet member responsible for the measures, sees it differently. To suggest that they can be replaced by bikes in the very hilly regin of upper Norwood, is nonsense, Traffic around the Triangle and Church road was already at tipping point. Fox Hill: closure at the junction between Fox Hill and Braybrooke Gardens. “If these latest schemes prove successful, we will consult the public to ask if they should become permanent.”. explains more about how we use your data, and your rights. “We walk most places and use the car once a week but I see other residents’ points.”. If you have friends who live in Crystal Palace you’ve most likely heard of ‘the triangle’, the three roads of shops, bars and restaurants filled with independent businesses and antique shops.. Visit at the weekend and it is usually buzzing, but during the week it is much quieter and this is just one of the reasons that some independent businesses are struggling. They are an important part of maoden life. In the case of Ryan, he said that he is “… terribly concerned about the Triangle”, meaning the seemingly permanently car-congested area at the top of Anerley Hill, where cars using the A214 slowly work their way around some fashionable independent shops, bars, pubs and restaurants. Croydon Council says it has informed 1,500 residents, community groups, local representatives and emergency services of the changes and they will also show up on Google Maps. Local access will be maintained via the Church Road end of Fox Hill. 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